I just got my new Kaba Gaida

topic posted Sat, October 14, 2006 - 11:06 AM by  Dave
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Okay, after about 2 months of waiting, my Kaba Gaida finally arrived in a box from Bulgaria, full of Bulgarian newspapers and magazine pages. I opened it, and boy, can you smell the goat on that bag -- I thought the Pakistani bagpipes I got were smelly, but this thing definitely smells.

Okay, I'm exaggerating... It's not a terrible smell, just a strong smell. But boy, is this instrument great! The bag is not sewn from pieces of leather, like most bagpipes, It's literally the whole skin of a goat, and there is a cow horn chanter-stock that has an animal face carved into it.

The pipes essentially came all set up and ready to play. I only had to attach the drone and chanter. I figured out how to tune it. It's in the key of D. The only problem I have is exactly what someone in another thread told me about -- These bagpipes are not tunes like others at all. In fact, they're limited to tuning. It looks like the drone wants to be G, and not much else. I can get G# and G-flat on the extreme tunings. It probably sounds right for Bulgarian music, but I won;t be able to play any of my other European folk tunes on it, so I'll have to learn some Bulgarian tunes.

One thing I definitely want to try out, and that is attempting to make plastic reeds for these. With the right kind of ingenuity, like EZ-drone style reeds, I should be able to make the drone more tunable so i can play my medieval european music, and then just re-tune it for Bulgarian music.

I attempted to play tunes that I knew, but it sounds like the tonic is actually one not below where I'm used to with other bagpips and recorders. Is that correct? I can play my usual music on it, but I have to move down a note for it to sound right.

The look of the pipes is well worth the price, though. They really look folky and ancient.
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  • Re: I just got my new Kaba Gaida

    Sat, October 14, 2006 - 3:35 PM
    I've been playing with my Kaba Gaida, and I think I figured out the flea-hole. Basically, when you open it, the notes under it go up half-a-step. It's going to take some practice to play things, but I can play several songs from my usual repertoire now, using the flea-hole occaisionally to keep the proper notes. It's definitely NOT just like playing other chanters. There is a lot that is very different if you play other types of pipes.
  • Re: I just got my new Kaba Gaida

    Sun, October 15, 2006 - 3:19 PM
    You've gotta love a bagpipe that makes ZERO attempt to conceal the fact that it is made from a dead goat! No pretty tartan or velveteen covering to camoflague the vegan nightmare that lurks beneath.

    Plastic reeds would definitely be a boon to all humankind. I have scouted the creeks and swamps of Central Virginia, and I can confidently report that we do NOT have THAT variety of river reed around THESE parts.

    Good luck with your new adventure into Balkan bagpipery! As if being a BAGPIPER didn't already alienate you from most human beings ... you are now going to experience the social exile of the GAIDAR!
    • Re: I just got my new Kaba Gaida

      Tue, November 7, 2006 - 3:35 PM
      I've been playing with my Gaida at various events with the SCA, and I've found that the older music tends to be more adaptable to the weird chanter of the gaida. There are a lot of mixolydian-scale melodies that were common in medieval times, and the gaida seems well suited for them, with minimal changes in fingering.

      One of the best tunes to play is the Scottish Brawl, which sounds eerie on the gaida -- more of a danse macabre than the festive celtic dance it usually is. I think this is a good thing, mind you, as it sounds like it's from another world, which is why I'm into all this weird folky music from the past and from the far corners of civilization. I'm definitely going to try figuring out how to make synthetic reeds for these, since I know there is a market. I know that the only source of reeds for these tend to be the manufacturers -- and you can't just buy the and have them shipped next day all the time.

      I think I'm going to try to some plastic tubing, and experiment with different types of polycarbonate tongues until I get the right sound. This will take time, but I'll let you know when, and if I perfect it.
      • Re: I just got my new Kaba Gaida

        Sun, November 26, 2006 - 5:41 AM
        Once you've got that plastic reed thing going, be sure to let us know. I may at that time take up gajda.

        BTW, all the good kaba gaida playing I've heard sounded beautiful and well pitched to me, not weird or otherworldly.
      • reed info sources

        Tue, January 2, 2007 - 8:04 PM
        there's another community that is deeply fixated on stuff like how to simulate bulgarian reeds - and that's the list serv for eastern european folk life - check their archives via their website - www.eefc.org. i swear i've seen endless threads on this kind of topic. you should also search the archives for stuff about keys and the tonic and fingering techniques. and yes, the kaba gaida mostly wants to be in G.
  • Re: I just got my new Kaba Gaida

    Wed, January 3, 2007 - 12:42 PM
    hope you enjoy it!

    The drone is typically tuned to same note (an octave or 2 down) as played with the upper hand closed (thumb, flea hole and top 2 normal holes closed) - this is normally considered the tuning of a kaba gaida -- So a D gaida plays A with all fingers open, D with the top hand closed, and G with all fingers closed - and the drone is D -- Usually folks will change gaidanitsas if they want to change to a different tuning, and you often see folks add a small fourth section to the drone to drop the pich a whole step (common to change from E to D) -- otherwise folks often just carry several gaidas.

    wierd for a kaba gaida drone to come in at G -- sometimes the reed will break over a fifth up if driven too hard - usually can be fixed with a little reed fussing and controling bag pressure carefully - and "popping" the drone to get it started after the gaidanitsa is going (real typical of rhodope kaba gaida startups, partly stylistic element, partly practical from how the critter tends to work)

    If you really want the kaba gaida sound you want to stay with the carved wood reeds - (they don't even use cane) - other types of reeds give the instrument a different sound - if you want a different sound, that's fine, but it will no longer sound like a traditional kaba gaida. -- sort of the same thing with the macedonian gaida - really has to have thuse one-piece cane reeds of the sound is wrong. Thracian gaida on the other hand seems to work fine with one piece or composite reeds -- haven't ever heard them tried with plastic tho --
    • Re: I just got my new Kaba Gaida

      Thu, January 4, 2007 - 6:26 AM
      Thanks for the tuning info.

      Right now, I have the drone tuned to the D note on the Chanter, which works for a lot of music, but I'll try the traditional tuning to hear the difference. I've been playing it enough now that I can play most of my usual songs. The Flea Hole is slowly becoming more of an instinct for me now.

      One interesting thing -- it's perfect for Hungarian folk music, as they have bagpipes that are essentially the same as the Gaida (along with several types of pipe that made their way into Hungary, including the Bohemian Dudy). I can play Hungarian dances that I know easily, and the flea-hole makes the correct notes possible.

      I'm going to look for a greek double-chanter bagpipe, next. It's tradition goesd back to the Ancient Greeks, and it's similar to the North African double-chantered pipe. The bag design is identical to the Gaida -- a goat's skin with it's read-legs stuffed up it's ass :)

      I tested a few reeds that I had. It seems that some commercial smallpipe reeds can fit with just a little bit of extra hemp, but because of the different length of the reed, more adjustment needs to be made. I could just barely get the right notes. I'm still trying, though.

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